tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post6198361570347664340..comments2024-03-19T10:52:32.528+05:30Comments on Arunachala and Ramana Maharshi: The qualifications needed to do self-enquiryDavid Godmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10354181925332694222noreply@blogger.comBlogger198125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-41354275184013954892015-06-14T22:51:28.310+05:302015-06-14T22:51:28.310+05:30David
As this is a ashram publication (even thou...David<br /><br /><br />As this is a ashram publication (even though its a complementary edition), any idea who edited the book? May be Sri V.Ganesan or Mr.Chandramouli might be able to provide inputs on this?<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-58944574735601596642015-06-13T19:04:34.676+05:302015-06-13T19:04:34.676+05:30Anonymous
I have seen that book and it is full of...Anonymous<br /><br />I have seen that book and it is full of inaccuracies. I don't know where he got this story from (about Bhagavan telling him to go and spread Sai Baba's teachings). There is no record in any ashram book of Bhagavan telling him this, and Kunju Swami says in his memoir that he left because he found he was getting too disturbed by visitors and the noise of Tiruvannamalai. David Godmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10354181925332694222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-83278616362479778452015-06-13T16:46:17.224+05:302015-06-13T16:46:17.224+05:30There is a story in recently published book(comple...There is a story in recently published book(complementary edition of Ashram titled 'Ramanarin Thiruvilaiyadal);<br /><br />1. On BVN, its Bhagavan who told him to go to Saibaba; to spread Sai teachings as his work...and BVN heard the 'same words' from Saibaba samadhi when he went there....<br /><br />2. On qualifications to practice SI, in one of anecdotes, Bhagavan says only those who have surrendered are eligible and have the competence to practice SI....Bhagavan didnt say 'who surrendered to Him', but 'surrendered'...meaning the Heart....<br /><br />And, practically, we can find that only with surrender, vichara would be possible....not otherwise...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-72923174542534929662011-01-03T08:00:16.644+05:302011-01-03T08:00:16.644+05:30Wonderful stories of Shirdi Baba and Upasani Mahar...Wonderful stories of Shirdi Baba and Upasani Maharaj."At first Upasani the disciple, found the changes difficult to accept. He developed a habit at Shirdi of cooking his food and offering it to Sai Baba before eating it himself. One day he found that a beggar, a shudra by birth, was hovering nearby while the food was being cooked. Upasani drove the beggar away with some stern words, a gesture reflecting his brahmanical fear of pollution from lower castes. <br /><br />When he subsequently took the prepared food to Sai Baba as usual, the old faqir refused to accept the food and instead drove him away. The disciple believed that Sai Baba was deliberately reflecting his own harsh treatment of the beggar. This event appears to have been the origin of Upasani's subsequent sense of identity with shudras and untouchables, an affinity that moved at an acute tangent to caste prejudices. "Wherever you may look, I am there," is one of the allusive statements made to him by the faqir"hey judenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-5707280574697419682011-01-03T06:41:43.408+05:302011-01-03T06:41:43.408+05:30I read some of Kevin Shepherds comments and critic...I read some of Kevin Shepherds comments and criticisms of Narasimhaswami being an 'opportunist' is laughable.<br />Narasimha was a sincere devotee of both Ramana Maharshi and Shirdi Baba.<br />Shepherd claims Shirdi Sai Baba has been swept into the Hindu fold thereby alienating many Muslims.<br />The incredible Sai Baba written by Arthur Osborne "Shirdi did not, however, encourage a merging of the two paths among his followers. He expected goodwill and tolerance between them; that was all"<br />Also both religions being valid, he did not approve of conversions.<br />Osborne goes on to say "Sufis teach in secret what Hindus teach openly'<br /><br />It was the Hindus worship of Sai Baba that was the stumbling block for Muslims, and the performance of this worship in a mosque seemed to be adding insult to injury.hey judenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-91563686607737530522011-01-03T02:37:55.292+05:302011-01-03T02:37:55.292+05:30http://www.kevinrdshepherd.info/shirdi_sai_baba_an...http://www.kevinrdshepherd.info/shirdi_sai_baba_and_sai_baba_movement.html contains some info on BVN including suggestions on why he left TiruIamNaNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-36088946548810331072010-11-06T09:10:52.909+05:302010-11-06T09:10:52.909+05:30Tarun,
Papaji on Sri Sathya sai Baba-You will find...Tarun,<br />Papaji on Sri Sathya sai Baba-You will find David questionning Papaji on this subject.<br />Please visit:<br />http://sri-ramana-maharshi.blogspot.com/2010/01/reincarnating-jnanis.html<br /><br />Namaskar.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875076137584328729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-86070779086860980882010-11-06T05:26:41.708+05:302010-11-06T05:26:41.708+05:30Dear David
I know this is an inappropriate questi...Dear David<br /><br />I know this is an inappropriate question here<br /><br />But i cannot resist. Has Papaji ever spoken of Sathya Sai Baba?Tarun Gidwanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10697742207350887824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-39070165352305306902010-11-05T15:33:16.178+05:302010-11-05T15:33:16.178+05:30Friends,
The Shirdi sai temple in Mylapore has bee...Friends,<br />The Shirdi sai temple in Mylapore has been renovated through a Kumbabhishekam performed some months back.I am delighted to find that the samadhi hall of Sri B V Narasimhaswamy is completely renovated-with a statue of Sri Saibaba installed over it and with another statue of Sri BVN standing beside him.The artefacts used by Sri BVN are also on display in one of the rooms on the left of the main sanctum sanctorum- the padukas(Footwear),Easy Chair and Bed.<br />Namaskar.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875076137584328729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-60214791254575930412010-09-30T12:27:34.512+05:302010-09-30T12:27:34.512+05:30There has been several discussions here and elsewh...There has been several discussions here and elsewhere about why BV Narasimha Swami moved away from Ramana Maharshi to Shirdi Sai Baba. <br /><br />However we fail to understand the essential teaching of Ramana Maharshi Himself. When we say, BVN moved from Ramana to Shirdi sai, we are giving importance to the 'bodies' of Bhagavan and Shirdi sai. In that ignorance, we say he moved from Ramana to Shirdi Sai.<br /><br />It is interesting to learn for ourselves how subtly our ego makes way for itself. It forgets the essential teaching and stays stuck in the matters of 'jada' or inert objects.<br /><br />Is there any difference between Ramana and Shirdi sai? physically they look different. But the inherent being is one and the same. Therefore BVN has not moved anywhere or changed his guru or He felt Self enquiry difficult or did he feel that his Guru was Shirdi Sai.<br /><br />It is Us (ego) that is stuck with strong impressions of Body and Form. We must strive to go above the form of Ramana Maharshi.<br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-76779671084975760922010-08-31T20:33:56.540+05:302010-08-31T20:33:56.540+05:30Especially when Self-enquiry is so easy to learn i...Especially when Self-enquiry is so easy to learn it is best to come to one's own judgement.Try it for a couple of months and see it for yourself.The proof of the pudding is in the eating.I tried it for short periods and it works very quickly but it brings great fear of losing myself and so for me the slow kill is practical.Why so much talk about it.It is always about it but not it; is it not??<br /><br />If 'Self-enquiry' can be retailed I dont think there would have been a temple in Ramanasramam.<br /><br />Dont bother about what the Saints say.Sometimes they say something in public and believe else in private.This is because there is no one pill to all.To everything they say there is a context and that context is the questioner ofcourse except on Ultimate Reality which is beyond expression anyway.You have to make out what sadhana suits you.Remeber that the Kitchen workers in Ramanasramam sadhana was non-stop concentration on work(sraddha) and endurance(Saburi).Ramana taught Bhakti,Guru-bhakti, Jnana,Karma,Self-enquiry, Service to the devotees,Service to the Holymen,charity to the poor and hungry,Rishi Dharma, Silence, Abstinence,Living by deed and word, Forgiveness,winning with Love and Compassion to all including animals and trees,Guru Dharma,Sanatana Dharma, Vedas, Chores Yoga:excelling in daily practical skills like cooking,binding,stitching etc,Ayurveda and Culinary and what not; all to the highest standard ever known in history.<br /><br />Infact the standard and impeccability is so high that he cannot be used a role model by a lot of ordinary mortals.<br /><br />Regular awareness(parayana/manana) of our strengths and weaknesse vis a vis the many things that Ramana lived(as listed above) is all I can do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-83359508074081067612010-08-31T08:48:01.076+05:302010-08-31T08:48:01.076+05:30Dear Friends,
:) I was going through "...Dear Friends,<br /> :) I was going through "Living By the Words of Bhagavan", where Annamalai Swami makes a very interesting comment:<br /><br /><b><br />pg 273, Living by the words of Bhagavan<br /></b><br /><br /><i><br />Q: Many people find Self inquiry very difficult. Even most of bhagavan's devotees seem to follow a bhakti path. If one cannot do enquiry successfully, should one first purify the mind with japa ? </i><br /><br />AS: No. If you have some interest in the path of self-enquiry you should follow it even if you feel that you are not very good at it. if you want to do self inquiry effectively and properly you should stick to that method alone. other methods may be good in their own right, but they are not good as preparations for self inquiry. if you are serious about becoming a good vilon player, you take lessons from a good teacher and practise as much as you can. If you encounter some difficulties you dont switch to the clarinet for a few months, you stay with your chosen instrument and keep practising till you get it right. <b>the best preparation for self inquiry is self inquiry </b><br /><br /><br />:)silence_speakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716759935902145448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-81870238847853423282010-08-24T19:02:41.071+05:302010-08-24T19:02:41.071+05:30Anonymous
Blogger has a new moderating system tha...Anonymous<br /><br />Blogger has a new moderating system that decides if incoming messages are spam or not. I found your two messages (the last two published) in the spam folder. I don't know why. No one else's messages have so far ended up there. Perhaps your email address has been tagged as a potential source of spam. You should look into this and see why you are being singled out in this way.David Godmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10354181925332694222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-67956988538175337282010-08-24T01:39:02.929+05:302010-08-24T01:39:02.929+05:30[Robert Adams extract contd]
In the Bhagavad Gita ...[Robert Adams extract contd]<br />In the Bhagavad Gita it says, “Out of a million people, one searches for God. And out of a million people who search, one finds Him.” It’s sort of difficult. That’s how it appears. But if you begin to use I Am as a meditation and you allow the I Am to go deeper and deeper, your bodily consciousness will disappear, and I Am will take over.<br />If you want to mix Self-inquiry, Atma Vichara, with I Am, that’s permissible. You can use them both together. I’ll explain how. Say you’re using the I Am meditation. In between, thoughts keep popping up. Whether they’re good thoughts or bad thoughts makes no difference, but thoughts keep interfering. You can now inquire, “To whom come these thoughts?” and you don’t have to go any further. Just observe and watch.<br /><br />When your mind becomes silent again, you go back to the I Am meditation with your respiration. When thoughts come again you inquire, “To whom do they come?” As you progress in this method, you complete the question. “The thoughts come to me. What is the Source of me? Who am I? What is the Source of I?” You begin to feel and see that the I that seems to have the problem is not you. You begin to feel, “I” have a problem. “I” am sick. “I” am angry. “I” have no peace of mind. And you begin to laugh. For the realization tells you, “I” has all these things, I don’t. “I” is the culprit. “I” appears to want this and need that. So it is with desires, wants, self-aggrandizement. All of this belongs to the “I.” Who is this I? Where does it come rom? If the “I” isn’t really me, then who am I? And you keep still. Now you may go back to I Am with the respiration. You inhale and you say I. You exhale and you say Am. As you progress this way, you’re going to ind something interesting happening to your life. You’re going to find there’s more and more space between I Am. It will happen by itself. You will inhale and you will say I, and all of a sudden nothing will come out of that. Then you will exhale with Am. You will inhale again and say I. Remember you’re not putting this on, you’re not making it happen. It’s happening all by itself. And the space between I Am is the fourth dimension of Consciousness.<br />After waking, sleeping, dreaming. It is the state of the Jnani. It is your freedom. It is Pure Awareness. Pure Awareness is not the I Am. The I Am leads to Pure Awareness. And when you keep practicing, “Who am I?” alternating with both of them, there will be a greater space before you say, “Who am I?” again. That space is Bliss. You’ll feel something you’ve never felt before. An inner joy, an inner delight. You will just know<br />that the whole universe is the Self, and I Am That. <br />Page 103Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-31878911693121226642010-08-24T01:37:14.991+05:302010-08-24T01:37:14.991+05:30***********************************
An extract abo...***********************************<br />An extract about Self Enquiry, Advaita and 'I am meditation' which has also been prescribed by Bhagawan, from the book:Silence of the Heart by Robert Adams which is a compilation of his spoken satsangs when he was alive.<br />Download it free from www.scribd.com<br />***********************************<br />Page101<br />I Am is the first name of God. When you want to think of God, you think of I Am with your respiration. I Am is the irst name of God. Close your eyes and try. Inhale and say, “I.” Exhale and say, “am.” Inhale say, “I,” exhale say, “am.” Doesn’t that make you feel good? Just by saying I Am to yourself, it lifts you up. So the thing to do is this: Whenever you have a problem, I don’t care what it is, I don’t care how serious you think it is, whether it’s personal or worldly, wherever it came from, the secret is to forget yourself. For the moment, forget about the problem for as long as you can, and do the I Am meditation. Every time the problem comes back to you, do the I Am meditation. If your mind wanders, bring it back again and do the I Am meditation. When I explain this to some people they say, “Robert, but you tell us we have to get rid of our minds. We have to annihilate the mind, not think with it.” This is true. This is the highest truth. But yet most people cannot do this. <br />*********************************<br />Remember Advaita Vedanta is really for mature souls. People who have practiced sadhana in previous lives. It’s like going to school. Self-inquiry, Advaita Vedanta, is like the university of spiritual life. You cannot fool yourself.<br />**********************************<br />There are so many people who try to practice Self-inquiry and they give it up. Then I tell them to surrender, surrender completely. That’s the other way. Again this becomes dificult. They try it for awhile and they always revert back to them selves, your personal self. So I give them the I Am meditation. Everybody can do that. When nothing seems to work, go back to the I Am. It’s really very powerful. Do not take it simple. I can guarantee you this. If you can practice I Am for one day, just one day, all of your troubles will be transcended. You will feel happiness you’ve never felt before. You will feel a peace that you never even knew existed. As you keep practicing I Am, your thoughts will become less and less. Your personal self will go into the background and you will begin to feel an inner Bliss. You will begin to feel that it no longer matters what I’m going through. It makes no difference, because it is God who is going through this, not me. And God has no problems. You automatically become happy, just by using the I Am meditation.<br />[contd]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-18413019832151698932010-08-20T09:35:31.131+05:302010-08-20T09:35:31.131+05:30Dear Sridhar,
:)
Many religious systems ...Dear Sridhar,<br /> :) <br />Many religious systems perpetuate the "I". Secretly. Please see, All along out childhood, we have been taught to avoid situations in life. For example if I have stage fear, i am told to repeat some mantra to myself. If i am afraid of darkness, i am asked to chant something or divert the mind. If i am attracted to Girls, chant something when they are near. Do pranayam etc. Do you see ? <br /><br />While this is what some religions are teaching, some others are teaching : "Observe Thoughts". Now, that becomes a new activity and perpetuates the ego.<br /><br />Bhagavan says find out "Who is troubled by all this". Instead of avoiding the situtation, remain in it and see who is really getting affected. That is, i need to not run away from any situation. No situtation scares me! The Truth that I cannot be affected by any situation can only be seen if i remain in the situtation and really see who is getting affected by the situation.<br /><br />So, that means, if i am afraid of darkness, i do not switch on the light, nor chant any mantra. so now, i am left alone with fear. The one who is trying to escape this fear. Who is it?<br /><br />Do you see that clearly? The space , the walls of your room, the trees outside ... they are all in complete darkness but none of them are afraid. so who is afraid ? <br /><br />This body is not afraid either. that is why when mind sleeps, the body is totally ignorant. it has no fear. The Consciousness within which just recognizes the presence of fear and all these things --- that too is not afraid.<br /><br />who is afraid!!<br />look within for the source from where this voice of fear is arising.<br />where has it started?<br />do you find this?<br />just see from whence this voice of fear is arising.<br /><br />observe carefully that there is really none who is saying this! There was some thought. "I am afraid", then another thought "I dont like darkness" etc ... a stream of such thoughts arising at fast pace are just creating a sense of "I" where there is none. <br /><br />In reality, there is no such entity called "I" within. And One has to see this. The moments of fear, worry etc are the right times to see these things clearly within. Validate within. Verify. There is no "I".<br /><br />so nothing remains a problem coz, there is no one for whom things could be a problem!! This is fantastic! It liberates. One can just sit down and revel in the inner joy. Just Be.<br /><br />Love!<br />Silencesilence_speakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716759935902145448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-43634221679894022212010-08-19T13:04:42.608+05:302010-08-19T13:04:42.608+05:30Namaste All
In certain satsanghs, I have picked u...Namaste All<br /><br />In certain satsanghs, I have picked up the idea that the traditional sadhanas (Cleansing inner equipment- Antha karana Shuddhis, exercise of discrimintion and dispassion etc. act as somekind of a gateway to self-enquiry. However, this would mean some pre-qualifications defined on the basis of level of success or maturity attainedin these saddhanas.<br />To quote from an earlier blog on Sri. Swaminathan:<br />" By becoming the source of all desires, the ego is the doorway to the sorrow of samsara. The extremely heroic and discriminating person first attains through dispassion the total renunciation of desires that arise in the form of ‘I want’. Subsequently, through the Selfward enquiry ‘Who am I?’, he renounces that ego, leaving no trace of it, and attains the bliss of peace, free from anxieties. This is the supreme benefit of dharma. (Guru Vachaka Kovai, verse, 850)]<br />"<br />Is this a correct outlook or is this only meant for those who are not able to get to self-enquiry directly. My apologies if this ground has already been covered in the discussions so far.<br />Many Pranams,<br />SridharSridhar Mudhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17514201267217557129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-43657341016897293962010-08-12T09:36:02.657+05:302010-08-12T09:36:02.657+05:30Dear Murali,
:)
yes, thats right.
as you ...Dear Murali,<br /> :)<br />yes, thats right. <br />as you mentioned:<br />"The trick is not to get into the worry that the thoughts have to controlled. "<br /><br />This is very true. I would like to add:<br />The mind suggests "Worry" and we unconsciously accept it. But Self inquiry is not to accept or reject, but to question "who is worried"<br /><br />Similarly the mind suggests "this is difficult" and we unconsciously accept it. If instead of agreeing with mind, we ask "who feels it is difficult"... it works. <br /><br />As a golden rule, do not agree with mind ... ;) that way, it is easier. coz unconsciously we often tend to agree with it always. <br /><br />We should stop pacifying the mind. For example, suppose its dark and I am afraid of darkness. That just means there are some thoughts driving me crazy. one way is to divert the mind from these thoughts - i can talk to someone on phone or watch a movie or chant hanuman chalisa. <br />But all these ways, i am avoiding the situtation. diverting the mind to something else. That means i have unconsciously accepted that the mind is affecting me. <br />instead, suppose i question "who has fear" , its directly encountering the thoughts. The thoughts have no power. i am just dissolving them into the source. i am not replacing them with other thoughts. just vanquishing them there and then! this leads to fearlessness. chanting hanuman chalisa does not make me fearless. it just gives me a support. but when i inquire who has fear and dissolve those thoughts at the base, its fearless. <br /><br />I am not saying hanuman chalisa is not useful. Hanuman chalisa is a wonderful prayer ... I appreciate all prayers. But that is not for diverting mind. it should be for dissolving the mind.silence_speakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716759935902145448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-11802018081510634012010-08-12T05:44:58.134+05:302010-08-12T05:44:58.134+05:30I agree that the enchroachment in Tiru is basicall...I agree that the enchroachment in Tiru is basically caused by huge increase in population and very little investment in infrastructure.<br />The indiscriminate and tastless refurbishment of ancient structures and places of worship.<br />The huge Arunachalaswar temple where endless barricades shoot up everywhere and upfront payment is demanded to worship the deity.<br />A street within the temple walls (clean and hushed)where now newly built villas and expensive cars parked outside the houses; I presume that's where the temple officials reside. Where are all the Sadhus that were living and meditating there years ago? Very few to be seen!<br />Arunachala stands overlooking the chaos. Green, serene and majestic!<br />hjAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-53055709967163452422010-08-11T21:14:21.586+05:302010-08-11T21:14:21.586+05:30silence_speaks wrote:
"When the mind is agit...silence_speaks wrote:<br /><br />"When the mind is agitated, when the mind is full of thoughts... if we sit down for Self Inquiry... that is an excellent chance to see how effective it is." <br /><br />What works for me is, when the mind is in the thick of its affairs with thoughts, when I am lost completely in the heat of the day to day issues, if I just mentally order "halt" and start watching the drama going on inside from the vintage point of the observer, the thoughts start to drop. Then, I start applying the sequence - "Whom do these thoughts come" - "to me" - "Who am I?" and focus on the Feeling of myself with an attitude of doubt.<br /><br />I too found that it is true that ability to focus on I is very high when the thoughts are thickest. The trick is not to get into the worry that the thoughts have to controlled. <br /><br /><br />Regards MuraliMuralihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720150736535781474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-17798019122582076082010-08-11T18:27:27.242+05:302010-08-11T18:27:27.242+05:30Thank you Ramesh. The way you have highlighted the...Thank you Ramesh. The way you have highlighted the main points of the documents was wonderful. I did go to the link and found it very helpful. Rajiv kapur who is the author of the article "steps in hunting the I" has given few very practical and important suggestions like enjoy your meditations, dont be in a hurry, Love is beingness,the four bodies etc etc. They are very valuable tips for me.<br />Yes Ramesh it seems he is claiming that he can carry Turya as his permanent experience. The bliss is never gone but then he mentions something about he experiencing the background too.<br /><br />Very valuable text.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Venkat RamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-35330451017610636102010-08-11T16:28:15.682+05:302010-08-11T16:28:15.682+05:30silence_speaks
"The attempt to do pranayama ...silence_speaks<br /><br />"The attempt to do pranayama or chant something to calm the mind is actually an attempt to avoid that situtation. Its just lulling the mind. Instead ... face the situtation"<br /><br />well said, makes sense :-)<br /><br />R pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-24698601401322214432010-08-11T16:26:18.730+05:302010-08-11T16:26:18.730+05:30s............lovely
R ps............lovely<br /><br />R pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-85746404242205725172010-08-11T16:23:29.856+05:302010-08-11T16:23:29.856+05:30nandu,
"For others like me, it does exactly ...nandu,<br /><br />"For others like me, it does exactly what is mentioned in your post. Too many concepts, too much 'knowledge', all ultimatley leading to a subtle but pretty strong sense of arrogance"<br /><br />very true :-(<br /><br />R pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-27164601950757725622010-08-11T12:28:41.408+05:302010-08-11T12:28:41.408+05:30When the mind is agitated, when the mind is full o...When the mind is agitated, when the mind is full of thoughts... if we sit down for Self Inquiry... that is an excellent chance to see how effective it is. <br /><br />Just sit down... the mind says "Its difficult in this state", ask "for whom", the mind says "i do not like this stuff now".... "for whom?" ask ... seek the source. And see how the mind is stilled. <br /><br /><br />Why do pranayama at that moment! Do Self inquiry there and then! thats the best time. Coz so much of noise inside ... thats the moment to validate how wonderful Bhagavan Ramana's method is!<br /><br />The attempt to do pranayama or chant something to calm the mind is actually an attempt to avoid that situtation. Its just lulling the mind. Instead ... face the situtation.silence_speakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716759935902145448noreply@blogger.com