tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post5436309094573543894..comments2024-03-19T10:52:32.528+05:30Comments on Arunachala and Ramana Maharshi: A Curious Court CaseDavid Godmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10354181925332694222noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-29621691108963810512014-05-23T18:30:26.337+05:302014-05-23T18:30:26.337+05:30Sankarraman,
You may like to check out this pdf bo...Sankarraman,<br />You may like to check out this pdf book-Advaita sadhana,excerpted from the talks of kAnchi mahAswami:<br />http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/downloads/sadhana.pdf<br /><br />Namaskar.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875076137584328729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-88477987600087667662014-05-16T13:59:46.927+05:302014-05-16T13:59:46.927+05:30Dr Radhakrishnan is only revelling in intellect as...Dr Radhakrishnan is only revelling in intellect as against his uncle Pranavananda being both a scholar and seeker. In his introduction to Arthur Osborne's work, there is only a lot of his own highfalutin ideas than any mention about Bhagavan.Sankarramanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718256859263931847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-36875391586031468502014-05-16T13:26:23.023+05:302014-05-16T13:26:23.023+05:30The gentleman who wrote a translation of the work ...The gentleman who wrote a translation of the work of Kumaradeava known as, 'Suddha Sadakam,' is Murugesamudaliyar.Sankarramanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718256859263931847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-33339495180398359272014-05-16T13:24:48.079+05:302014-05-16T13:24:48.079+05:30There is also a bizarre account of the Swamys of R...There is also a bizarre account of the Swamys of Ramakrishna Order, having claimed that they are not Hindus, but are for something Universal. On that score, they wanted to be classified under a minority status enabling them to have some special privileges, which is a case of hypocrisy.Sankarramanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718256859263931847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-7057962235930916522014-05-16T12:54:09.334+05:302014-05-16T12:54:09.334+05:30The acharya of Sankara Matt, being believers in th...The acharya of Sankara Matt, being believers in the philosophy of Mimamsa, dealing purely with Vedic rituals denying the role of god and stressing only the principle of, 'Apurva,' connoting the idea of the karmic effect of something done- according to them, it is only the karmas that naturally fructify and god has no role in that, and if one were to avoid bad karmas, and not give up the obligatory ones, one would attain moksa- don't have any authority to sit in judgement as to what constitutes a temple or samadhi. It is only the upholders of agama philosophy like Tirumular who have the authority in deciding these issues. That Sankarachryar should have dissuaded the priests from performing the pujas in the temple on account of impurity due to its being a burial place, shows his lack of understanding that a Jnani is free from these conventional constrictions. He lacks the qualification to decide either the status of Bhagavan or his mother. The averment of judges that a samadhi cannot evolve into a temple, is only a conventional logic. The Chidambarm temple is only the samadhi of Tirumualar as held by some saivaite Dikshithars of Chdiambaram. The conventional acharyas neither impart the wisdom of Advaita nor speak of the glory of god, but are only poor and pathetic, woebegone ritualists, and how in the name of heaven they could dare to speak demeaningly of a jnani, having their own pet traditional ideas.Sankarramanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718256859263931847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-86455212247321734372014-05-16T09:59:57.798+05:302014-05-16T09:59:57.798+05:30There is a treatise called, 'Suddha Sadhaham,&...There is a treatise called, 'Suddha Sadhaham,' meaning pure consciousness written by Kumaradevar subscribing to the view that the body of the yogi doesn't have a physical death, but is resolved into the undifferentiated matter, an idea cherished by most of the siddha schools. One Mudaliyar whose name I don't remember has translated this into very good English. But because very few takers were there, there was no further edition.Sankarramanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718256859263931847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-86396465808148466162012-06-16T13:30:05.550+05:302012-06-16T13:30:05.550+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.venerable sritantrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963299120467501469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-58835240012699961402012-06-16T13:29:49.683+05:302012-06-16T13:29:49.683+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.venerable sritantrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963299120467501469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-77894306087216496202012-06-16T13:29:00.268+05:302012-06-16T13:29:00.268+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.venerable sritantrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963299120467501469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-17977165294387726682012-05-03T21:00:28.333+05:302012-05-03T21:00:28.333+05:30What an amusing adventure! Thank you for the accou...What an amusing adventure! Thank you for the account.<br /><br />There were two great takeaways for me:<br />'Who is a Hindu' quote and more valuable this following touchstone definition (and practice instruction) of a Jnani by Sri Paramacharya<br /><br />".. to whom the existence and extinction of the body made no difference and who, fully one (with the Self) did not have an inkling of desire to see or hear anything. "<br /><br />I am amazed at how fluently this flowed in a conversation and caught by Ra.Ganapathi and how you pulled it out and presented it. Thank you Sri.Godman. Deivajna.<br /><br />**<br /><br />As a little bit of thinking might reveal, running the Ashram is not a privilege for Ramana's brother's family but a great responsibility. <br />Generation after generation at least one of the descendents should commit to staying there and managing it, which is not very easy.<br /><br />I do believe that the ashram by being an anchor that invites amd supports devotees and knowledge seekers such as you and providing them a glimpse of his life actual,<br />has inspired all of us.<br /><br />If at all in future either because of practical circumstance or force of political events, the ashram falls off the hands of this devoted family, no worries, there is a Ramanasramam in every Ramana devotees mind. There will be several ashramams' all over the world and the Annamalai Ramanashramam will continue to remain the last pilgrimage spot for advaitins.<br /><br />But Bhagavan's will is eternal and jnani does not have a sankalpam, what he utters as sankalpam is eswara sankalpam and the laws of politics and physics have to bend themselves to meet that.<br /><br />The more I think of it, it seems like an event that helped test the managements commitment and bring the community together, than a real threat to its survival.<br /><br />Thanks again.<br />RaviAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-61475266735837983002012-05-01T22:02:56.127+05:302012-05-01T22:02:56.127+05:30David/friends,
"I appealed earlier for expert...David/friends,<br />"I appealed earlier for expert agamic help. I make the same appeal again for vedic knowledge. If the Paramacharya had accepted that Bhagavan’s mother was a jnani, would that have enabled him to change his opinion on the status of the Mother’s Temple in the years prior to its kumbhabhishekam? According to the Vedas, could a jnani’s body in a graveyard have a temple constructed over it that could be visited and used by orthodox Hindus?"<br /><br />The story of sakkarai amma is interesting-amma was called sakkarai ,derived from chakra,as she worshipped Sri Chakra.Amma has met Sri Bhagavan ,Sri seshadri swami.Her temple is built on her samadhi by Sri Nanjunda Rao,who is her disciple.Incidentally Dr Nanjunda Rao was an ardent devotee of Swami Vivekananda and he helped procure the land for the Ramakrishna Mutt.Nanjunda Rao also gave the land to Sri Narasimhaswami to build the sai temple in Mylapore,Chennai.<br /><i>The interesting thing about this temple is that Sri sakkarai amma is a Brahmin Widow and the temple is constructed on her samadhi with her statue installed.The Kanchi Mahaswami has spent 5 days in 1948 in tapas in this temple</i>.<br />The temple is quite a neat and clean place with a wonderful spiritual ambiance.It is situated on Kalakshetra Road,Thiruvanmiyur,Chennai<br />Please visit :<br />http://www.srisakkaraiamma.com/aboutamma.htm<br />Namaskar.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875076137584328729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-56457497994808704832012-02-22T13:41:43.362+05:302012-02-22T13:41:43.362+05:30Friends,
Just now got the news that rA Ganapathi,T...Friends,<br />Just now got the news that rA Ganapathi,The great devotee who had compiled 8 Volumes of Deivathin Kural-Talks of Kanchi MahAswami passed away on the sivaratri day.<br />I will just copy the news that I received here:<br />This is to inform our friends that Sri. Ra. Ganapathi has departed our world. The moment of his passing came around 7:30 PM on this auspicious Maha ShivaRatri evening. The family has stated that he was very conscious and aware at the moment of his passing. He started a japam as he started on his way.<br /><br />He had been well aware of the forthcoming end for the last few days and has shared it with a few people close to him. As many of us are aware, he has written a number of books (over 35) and articles on Spiritual subjects. His career as we knew it, started with Jaya Jaya Shankara in 1962, which was published as a serial in the weekly, Kalki and was then published as a book. Over 10 in years in Kalki, and over another 25 years as a freelancer, he has written a number of books and articles touching on the life and words of Sri Kanchi Maha Periyava, as also Sri Satya Sai Baba, Sri ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sri Saradamani (our Holy Mother), Swami Vivekanada and Bhakta Meerabai.<br /><br />He was gifted in the area of music as well and some of his kritis and bhajans have been rendered by reknowned karnatak musicians. Sri Ganapathi never coveted any fame nor material possessions. A number of us have known him to never touch money and have watched his needs and legal obligations being miraculously met over and over for a number of years, long before he had acquired any name recognition.<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />This Great devotee lives on in and through his wonderful books written in his inimitable style.<br /><br />Namaskar.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875076137584328729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-28740284917234027712012-01-24T21:49:38.252+05:302012-01-24T21:49:38.252+05:30david: there seems to be some problem with the ...david: there seems to be some problem with the 'Open Thread'. when one tries to post a comment, the number of comments shown on top is "200" though the actual is more than 3000!S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-18958139352324777702011-12-07T23:22:52.636+05:302011-12-07T23:22:52.636+05:30(3) Feel within as my prana or white light ...(3) Feel within as my prana or white light is healing all of my diseases within my physical, mental, subtle bodies and energizing all of my chakras forever and forever. Maintain stillness. Then feel as .. for 5 minutes .. <br /><br />(4) Pure, bright white light flowing through me is purifying apus, pridhvi, vayu, tejas, akash, my home and all of my past, present, future bad karmas and around me upto 10000 k.ms. Maintain stillness. Then say within as I am succeeding in all of my efforts, I am very happy, prosperous and peaceful now. <br /><br />(5) Then imagine, my prana in the form of pure, bright white light is filling my body, mind and soul with divine love, joy, peace, prosperity, friendship, kindness and success forever and forever. Maintain stillness. <br /><br />(6) Then, you feel within as …. NOW I am experiencing as the divine nature of God is childlike, always celebratory, always joyful and unconditionally loving the moment. These moments are unconditionally loving moments. I am in touch with God. My human will is transforming into divine will, my human love is transforming into divine love, my sexual energy is transforming into divine energy. I am recognizing the unity with God now and forever and forever, I am transforming day by day from human being into a divine light being. [Fill your heart with such divine feelings]<br /><br />(7) Imagine as abundant cosmic energy is flowing through my body, mind and soul and storing below my navel forever and forever. <br /><br />(8) Continue to meditate for 20 to 45 minutes. If you want to recite Babaji’s prayer as many times as you can, recite. Experience the inner joy in silence. Practice stillness daily. Learn to meditate for long time upto 3 to 5 hours. <br /><br />(9) PRAY FOR OTHERS : At the end of the meditation pray for 5 minutes as … <br /><br />“Heavenly Father, bless me and all of us, our family members, all friends, relatives, all soulmates, ATMAS, soldiers, our country and all children of Babaji provide us the most peaceful life with all comforts and enough resources and wipe out all negative forces and vulgar culture forever and forever” … <br /><br />from the depth of your heart. At the end recite above prayers and say Sarveshaam Santhir Bhavatu, Sarveshaam Mangalam Bhavatu, Sarveshaam Poornam Bhavatu. Language is not a barrier. Purity of heart is required.. Understand the true nature of Divine Will, Free Will and acquire at Will and selection of soulmates by God. To follow the footsteps of God follow “Will of God” only.<br /><br />Pregnants, children and any seeker without any discrimination of age, gender, religion, spiritual path can follow the above method. No need to deviate from your regular worshipping methods. This system is purely personal and so natural to maintain eternal contact with God directly. You can spread, print, and share this method with any seeker of God. No need of secrecy. Become a Deva Warriors and Light Workers. This pure knowledge is free. (To practice this method use white light or prana) <br /><br />PRANA is the link between You and the God.<br /><br />Be practical, live realistically and naturally in tune with modern times.<br /><br />The real transformation has to be made within your Heart only but not outside.<br /><br />Practice to awaken the “TRUE MASTER” resides within your heart.<br /><br />Set a goal to meditate for a minimum of 10,000 hours in a decade or two. <br /><br />Unmarried ( everybody ) has to maintain physical and mental brahmacharya for<br />purity within. <br /><br />Understand reality, never become a blindlamb, never follow the teachings of any Master blindly, perfect conceptual clarity is required.<br /><br />FOLLOW BHARATHEEYA SAMSKRUTHIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-84973236780811336412011-12-07T23:21:36.424+05:302011-12-07T23:21:36.424+05:30PARAM GURU PREMAVATAR MAHAVATAR BABAJI
COME...PARAM GURU PREMAVATAR MAHAVATAR BABAJI<br /><br />COME CHILDREN ! COME TO ME ! MEDITATE !<br />I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ALL OF MY CHILDREN<br /><br />MY ONLY INTEREST IS THE NEW RELIGION…<br />AND THE RELIGION OF PAST, FUTURE, AND PRESENT : <br />THE RELIGION OF LOVE [ i.e. DIVINE LOVE ] .. BABAJI<br /><br /><br />WONDERFUL GIFT TO ALL CHILDREN OF BABAJI ON THE EVE OF SRI MAHAVATAR BABAJI’ S SMRITI DIVAS ON 25-7-2011<br /><br />BEGINNING PRAYERS OF WHITE LIGHT KRIYA YOGA<br /><br />OM Yoga raajaaya vidmahe Mahaa yogaaya dheemahi<br />Thanno kriyaa yogaa prachodayat.<br /><br />Heavenly Father, Divine Mother Gayathri, Param Guru Premavatar Mahavatar Babaji and Sadgurus of all religions we bow to you all. Babaji, bless me, love me, protect me, guide me forever and forever. Babaji, be with us, bless us, guide us and make us as perfect kriyabans by sowing the seeds of divine love, joy, peace, prosperity, friendship, kindness and success in our hearts forever and forever and wake up us from maha maya. Om Santhi, Santhi, Santhihi.<br /><br /> <br /> Wishing well and good to all with a smile on your face! That is living well. Living well is making the world a better place. It is gift for you and everyone! That is wisdom. .. Babaji <br /><br />This method is called as WHITE LIGHT KRIYA YOGA, directly revealed by Sri Mahavatar Babaji to a Kriyaban on the eve of His Smriti Divas to make your homes as places of peace. Billions can practice, print and share on your own. No restrictions. No need of Sannyas. No need of conditioning the mind. Fix your timings on your own to practice NOW. <br /><br />BASIS : Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi .. of Gayathri mantra .. We should meditate on God as LIGHT. i.e. in pure, bright white light form.<br /><br />METHOD : (1) Sit in Padmasan or any comfortable posture, recite the prayers, close your eyes, gaze between eye brows, open your heart, invite Babaji into your heart by saying, Babaji come and stay in my heart, and imagine as your heart is filling with divine love. Maintain stillness. Then, reveal all of your problems. Pray for His guidance.<br /><br />(2) Invite prana or pure, bright white light .. say, my prana is purifying all chakras and all parts of my body, mind and soul by removing all blocks and all past, present bad karmas within me. You can feel the flow of energy within .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-38324727656074621232011-09-17T15:46:50.367+05:302011-09-17T15:46:50.367+05:30,Vinayaka Chavithi Puja Vidhanam- poojalu, vratamu...,Vinayaka Chavithi Puja Vidhanam- poojalu, vratamulu, horoscope, panchangam, god prayers, suprabhatamulu, astotramulu, raasichakram, kundali, best works, vaastu, muhoortamulu, festivals, devotional, bhakti, aaradhana, saahityam, aalayam, telugu bhakti, sai strotramulu, vinayaka vratam, varalaxmi vratam, culture, Subhamuhurtamulu, lucky stones, dosha nivarana pooja, telugu nakshatrams, palmistry, daily panchangam, best timings, daily, muhoortams, sumoohartam, bhakti, aaradhana, satyanveshana, ananda siddi, saahityam, saampradayam, temple, dharma sandeshaalu, aadyatmika samaacharam<br /><br />http://www.sakalapoojalu.comsakalapoojaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06978981474464286342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-75973563636430793892011-09-17T15:45:23.860+05:302011-09-17T15:45:23.860+05:30,Vinayaka Chavithi Puja Vidhanam- poojalu, vratamu...,Vinayaka Chavithi Puja Vidhanam- poojalu, vratamulu, horoscope, panchangam, god prayers, suprabhatamulu, astotramulu, raasichakram, kundali, best works, vaastu, muhoortamulu, festivals, devotional, bhakti, aaradhana, saahityam, aalayam, telugu bhakti, sai strotramulu, vinayaka vratam, varalaxmi vratam, culture, Subhamuhurtamulu, lucky stones, dosha nivarana pooja, telugu nakshatrams, palmistry, daily panchangam, best timings, daily, muhoortams, sumoohartam, bhakti, aaradhana, satyanveshana, ananda siddi, saahityam, saampradayam, temple, dharma sandeshaalu, aadyatmika samaacharam<br /><br />http://www.sakalapoojalu.comsakalapoojaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06978981474464286342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-72500137438320758392011-09-11T22:36:35.870+05:302011-09-11T22:36:35.870+05:30It is interesting to read the responses to Seema a...It is interesting to read the responses to Seema and Rosemary's questions. We tend to be defensive about those we feel is sacred. Any reasoning person is immediately tried to persuaded not to follow their line of thought and asked to have faith. To me the self enquiry taught by Bhagavan requires a questioning mind, not mere repetition of words of wisdom of saints. The very act of Bhagavan writing a will means our understanding of a jnani needs to be corrected. Let us try to explore this which will make us so much richer in our understanding. So, let us not jump on anyone questioning, though we may not agree to it fully.Shrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306276800899725751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-34357181969288588282011-09-09T10:43:53.431+05:302011-09-09T10:43:53.431+05:30Dear all,
David, Thank you for a wonderful post. ...Dear all,<br /> David, Thank you for a wonderful post. Though i am not learned like anyone here, i would like to add a word or two with my humble pranams to Bhagawan and Acharya.<br /> After reading through the Curious Court Case, and curious case of "HINDU" word, its my humble understanding that Hindu is a word that was used by the west to represent the other side of River Sindh- Bharaatavarshha and the people living in it. We did not have Namakaranam as "HINDU". So for that matter any Shankara Mutt or RamaKrishna Mutt or Ramanashram or any temple /institutions there of are not HINDU basically. They are for Sanatana Dharma. So Ramakrishna mutt or Ramanashram proclaiming as non Hindu is quite logical and correct. Since Sanathana Dharma is the representation for this part of world and pre-existed the word "HINDU".<br />Pranams to Acharyas and Bhagawan.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Karthik.S.R.Karthik_srkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14148603325402039767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-45676533986808150982011-09-09T04:14:01.987+05:302011-09-09T04:14:01.987+05:30[…contd]
"But, Lord, what was the reason why ...[…contd]<br />"But, Lord, what was the reason why the holy life lasted long in the<br />time of the Blessed Ones Kakusandha, Konagamana and Kassapa?"<br />"Those Blessed Ones were forward in teaching the Dhamma to<br />their disciples in detail, and they pronounced many Threads of Argument,<br />Songs, Expositions, Stanzas, Exclamations, Sayings, Birth Stories,<br />Marvels and Questions. The disciples' training rule was made<br />known. The Patimokkha, the Monastic Code, was laid down. Just as,<br />when various flowers are put on a table well tied together with threads,<br />they do not get scattered, blown away and lost—why is that? because<br />they are well tied together with threads—so too, when those Buddhas,<br />those Blessed Ones, and the disciples enlightened by them personally,<br />disappeared, then the disciples who had gone forth most recently,<br />variously named, of various races, of various clans, maintained the<br />holy life for a long time. That was the reason why those Blessed Ones'<br />holy life lasted long."<br />Then the venerable Sariputta rose from his seat, and arranging<br />his robe on one shoulder, he raised his hands palms together towards<br />the Blessed One and said: "This is the time, Blessed One, this is the<br />time, Sublime One, for the Blessed One to make known the training<br />rule, to lay down the Patimokkha, so that the holy life may last<br />long."<br />"Wait, Sariputta, wait! The Perfect One will know the time for<br />that. The Master does not make known the disciples' training rule<br />or lay down the Patimokkha till certain taint-producing things manifest<br />themselves here in the Sangha. But as soon as they do, then<br />the Teacher will see to both of these, doing so for the purpose<br />of warding off those taint-producing things. Some taint-producing<br />things do not manifest themselves until the Sangha has become<br />great by long establishment and grown large: it is then that they manifest<br />themselves and then that the Teacher makes known the disciples'<br />training rule and lays down the Patimokkha for the purpose<br />of warding off those taint-producing things. Some taint-producing<br />THE END OF THE FIRST TWENTY YEARS 129<br />things do not manifest themselves till the Sangha has become great<br />by completeness ... become great by excessive gain ... become great<br />by learning .... But as yet the Sangha is free from infection, free<br />from dangers, it is stainless, pure and consists of heartwood. For of<br />these five hundred bhikkhus the most backward is a stream-enterer<br />no more subject to perdition, certain of Tightness, and destined to<br />enlightenment."Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529540057558347821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-75959088893835119362011-09-09T04:13:30.763+05:302011-09-09T04:13:30.763+05:30Life of the Buddha by Nanamoli
*******************...Life of the Buddha by Nanamoli<br />******************************<br />Why the establishment of the Ashram,Temple and the Will???<br />******************************<br />While the venerable Sariputta was alone in retreat this thought<br />arose in him: "Which Buddhas' holy life did not last long? Which<br />Buddhas' holy life lasted long?"<br />When it was evening, he rose from retreat, and he went to the<br />Blessed One and put this question to him.<br />"In the time of the Blessed Ones Vipassi, Sikhl and Vessabhu<br />the holy life did not last long, Sariputta. In the time of the Blessed<br />Ones Kakusandha, Konagamana and Kassapa the holy life lasted<br />long."<br />"Lord, what was the reason why the holy life did not last long in<br />the time of the Blessed Ones Vipassi, Sikhl and Vessabhu?"<br />"Those Blessed Ones were not forward in teaching the Dhamma<br />to their disciples in detail, and they pronounced few Threads of<br />Argument (Suttas),3 Songs, Expositions, Stanzas, Exclamations, Sayings,<br />Birth Stories, Marvels, and Questions. No disciples' training<br />rule was made known. The Patimokkha, the Monastic Code, was<br />not laid down. Just as, when various flowers are put on a table without<br />being held together by threads, they easily get scattered, blown<br />away and lost—why is that? because they are not held together<br />with threads—so too, when those Buddhas, those Blessed Ones,<br />and the disciples enlightened by them personally, disappeared,<br />then the disciples most recently gone forth, variously named, of<br />various races and various clans, soon let the holy life lapse. Those<br />Blessed Ones habitually read their disciples' minds and advised<br />them accordingly. Once in a certain awe-inspiring jungle thicket<br />the Blessed One Vessabhu, accomplished and fully enlightened, read<br />the minds of the Sangha of bhikkhus a thousand strong, and this<br />was how he advised and instructed them: 'Think thus; do not think<br />128 THE LIFE OF THE BUDDHA<br />thus. Give attention thus; do not give attention thus. Abandon this;<br />enter upon and abide in this.' Then by following his instructions their<br />hearts were freed from taints through not clinging. And that jungle<br />thicket was one so awe inspiring that normally it would make a man's<br />hair stand on end if he were not free from lust. That was the reason<br />why those Blessed Ones' holy life did not last long."<br /><br />[contd…]Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529540057558347821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-34727864771329337392011-09-08T17:25:28.199+05:302011-09-08T17:25:28.199+05:30Why all this questions. Ramana would not have gone...Why all this questions. Ramana would not have gone anywhere even if the court case was lost. <br /><br />Arunachala cant be moved right. Kind souls would have gone on writing about him. So much words on someone so silent ;)Kashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070042722241844065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-38306219439879578552011-09-07T07:18:27.233+05:302011-09-07T07:18:27.233+05:30Maharaj
...realization is explosive. It takes pl...Maharaj <br /><br />...realization is explosive. It takes place spontaneously, or at the slightest hint. The quick is not better than the slow. Slow ripening and rapid flowering alternate. Both are natural and right. Yet, all this is so in the mind only. As I see it, there is really nothing of the kind. In the great mirror of consciousness images arise and disappear and only memory gives them continuity. And memory is material -- destructible, perishable, transient. On such flimsy foundations we build a sense of personal existence -- vague, intermittent, dreamlike. This vague persuasion: 'I-am-so-and-so' obscures the changeless state of pure awareness and makes us believe that we are born to suffer and to die. <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />I was told that a realized person will never do anything unseemly. That they will behave in an exemplary way. <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />Who sets the example? Why should a liberated one necessarily follow conventions? The moment one becomes predictable, one cannot be free. Ones freedom lies in being free to fulfill the need of the moment, to obey the necessity of the situation. Freedom to do what one likes is really bondage, while being free to do what one must, what is right, is real freedom. <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />What about cause and effect? <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />Each moment contains the whole of the past and creates the whole of the future. <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />But past and future exist? <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />In the mind only. Time is in the mind, space is in the mind. The law of cause and effect is also a way of thinking. In reality all is here and now and all is one. Multiplicity and diversity are in the mind only. <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />A message in print may be paper and ink only. It is the text that matters. By analysing the world into elements and qualities we miss the most important -- its meaning. Your reduction of everything to dream disregards the difference between the dream of an insect and the dream of a poet. All is dream, granted. But not all are equal. <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />The dreams are not equal, but the dreamer is one. I am the insect. I am the poet -- in dream. But in reality I am neither. I am beyond all dreams. I am light in which all dreams appear and disappear. I am both inside and outside the dream. Just as a man having a headache knows the ache and also knows that he is not the ache, so do I know the dream, myself dreaming and myself not dreaming -- all at the same time. I am what I am before, during and after the dream. But what I see in dream, I am not." <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the way out? <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is also part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as dream. <br /><br />Seeker <br /><br />If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream, where will it lead me? <br /><br />Maharaj <br /><br />Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be doneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-82312367632977338552011-09-06T22:23:05.396+05:302011-09-06T22:23:05.396+05:30Rosemary,
Hope, the below excerpts (as links) fro...Rosemary,<br /><br />Hope, the below excerpts (as links) from "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi" will be of help to you to clear your doubts.<br /><br />http://bhagavan-ramana.org/ramana_maharshi/books/tw/tw467.html<br /><br />http://bhagavan-ramana.org/ramana_maharshi/books/tw/tw399.html<br /><br />Also,<br />http://bhagavan-ramana.org/ramana_maharshi/books/ss/ss013.html<br /><br />Reading "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi" and "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" will be of great help to you.<br /><br />Thanks.Sankar Ganeshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961358105214008284.post-45445287127712142292011-09-06T20:19:47.478+05:302011-09-06T20:19:47.478+05:30salutations to all:
hope none of you will take my...salutations to all:<br /><br />hope none of you will take my opinion 'personally'. my apologies in advance if someone, despite my intentions, does get inadvertently offended. here is an opinion - of course, but for bhagavAn, don't know what is not an opinion! :-) - to doubt is important, especially prior to a conviction, but after a firm conviction has flowered, after a steadfast confidence has emerged, there can be three broad classes of 'students': the 'best class' will direct & sharpen their focus on the most essential crux of the teacher's instruction, but for the most basic duties in life one has been entrusted or thrust with, engage in sAdhanA unswervingly until the self is realised (reading is not sAdhana; the only purpose of reading, be it a teacher's teachings or biography or scriptures, is to gain that conviction, after which reading is just a futile addiction). the 'mediocre class' will read, analyse, ponder over the master's writing & teachings, study scriptural texts, find comparisons between teachings here and elsewhere, relish reminiscences left by the 'best' referred earlier, visit holy places etc. (unless specifically instructed by the master to cater to one's particular disposition, not those we imagine, all these are by & large only a preparation for sAdhanA, not sAdhanA per se). The 'residual class' are likely to get attracted by the likes of 'why did the master do this or not do that when what would have been 'right' is to have not done that or done this', why did the master remain silent here but speak there, why did the teacher use his right hand when he typically only uses the left hand etc. etc., and this can be occupying enough to neither reflect on the teachings nor soak oneself in sAdhanA! <br /><br />now, if not all, most of us have all the above within us, akin to the fluctuating dominance of the guNas in us at diferent points in time. to the best of our abilities, let us be riveted to the 'best class' & pivoted to sAdhanA, otherwise we may fall an easy prey to the warning given in the verse 4.40 of the gItA - <i>samshyAtmA vinashyati, na sukham samshayAtmanaH</i> :-)S.noreply@blogger.com